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	<title>Comments on: ALVINLEEART.COM DIGITAL COLOR CHALLENGE &#8211; FINALISTS (VOTE)</title>
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		<title>By: A L V I N L E E A R T . C O M &#187; Archive &#187; ALVINLEEART.COM DIGITAL COLOR CHALLENGE WINNER! &#8211; FABIAN &#8220;MONK&#8221; SCHLAGA</title>
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		<dc:creator>A L V I N L E E A R T . C O M &#187; Archive &#187; ALVINLEEART.COM DIGITAL COLOR CHALLENGE WINNER! &#8211; FABIAN &#8220;MONK&#8221; SCHLAGA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some of you already know here&#8217;s the winner of the DIGITAL COLOR CHALLENGE done by the very talented, Fabian &#8220;Monk&#8221; Schlaga of Kassel, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some of you already know here&#8217;s the winner of the DIGITAL COLOR CHALLENGE done by the very talented, Fabian &#8220;Monk&#8221; Schlaga of Kassel, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eyyojung</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyyojung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the big highlights in Muhammed Ansar Ali work. i think is has the most udon-look of all.

...monks is pure epic. 
big up 2 all!
peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the big highlights in Muhammed Ansar Ali work. i think is has the most udon-look of all.</p>
<p>&#8230;monks is pure epic.<br />
big up 2 all!<br />
peace</p>
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		<title>By: salamander</title>
		<link>http://www.alvinleeart.com/2009/10/alvinleeart-com-digital-color-challenge-finalists-vote/comment-page-9/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i haven&#039;t recieved any notifications concerning prize distribution. i assume due to scheduling allotment, it has been delayed or i&#039;ve missed some details concerning the five finalists. is there anyone to shed light on this? i am not too concerned, just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven&#8217;t recieved any notifications concerning prize distribution. i assume due to scheduling allotment, it has been delayed or i&#8217;ve missed some details concerning the five finalists. is there anyone to shed light on this? i am not too concerned, just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: lu</title>
		<link>http://www.alvinleeart.com/2009/10/alvinleeart-com-digital-color-challenge-finalists-vote/comment-page-9/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is the winnner?</description>
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		<title>By: XaVoR85</title>
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		<dc:creator>XaVoR85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys, when do the contest finishes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys, when do the contest finishes?</p>
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		<title>By: lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to know who was the winner. 

I didnt see any update about the contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to know who was the winner. </p>
<p>I didnt see any update about the contest.</p>
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		<title>By: provocaretina</title>
		<link>http://www.alvinleeart.com/2009/10/alvinleeart-com-digital-color-challenge-finalists-vote/comment-page-9/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>provocaretina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mi vote is for carlos reinero!</description>
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		<title>By: anonimously</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonimously</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.. that&#039;s too dificult to have voted.. every finalists have story inside their color which served.. and than i&#039;ve got 2 optional.. between Daniel and Fabian.. btw, congratulation for all finalists..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.. that&#8217;s too dificult to have voted.. every finalists have story inside their color which served.. and than i&#8217;ve got 2 optional.. between Daniel and Fabian.. btw, congratulation for all finalists..</p>
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		<title>By: Jonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Brian Tillman

if there are any accusations &quot;flying around&quot;, they certainly aren&#039;t mine. I haven&#039;t accused anybody - merely made observations of some peculiar facts, and expressed my concern. My first thought was a glitch in the vote engine itself... Whoever said anything about accusations?

Apparently, Alfred thought the concerns were valid enough to warrant a change in the voting engine.

As for having friends vote... of course it&#039;s okay! It&#039;s natural - we can&#039;t be expected to hide stuff from our friends, can we?

But letting the school know was, in my eyes, a few steps too far... you see, I&#039;m a teacher myself - BA at teaching English (ESL). I only followed that career for one year, since I also have a Master&#039;s in Architecture, but I do have a pretty good idea how things work. 

If one of my students was participating in a contest, I definitely would NOT tell the school about it - I would leave it to them, if they wanted to do so. School pride is a very powerful factor. Students would certainly vote for their own, and in the end, the results would have no real meaning, the achievement would be hollow.

That&#039;s why I would want my student&#039;s contest to remain unbiased, so that the results would be of actual value to them - as a measure of real achievement. 

As I said - of course inviting friends to vote is fine. I never said it wasn&#039;t. But there&#039;s quite a bit of a difference between that and having an entire school go vote. Regardless if you&#039;d encourage them to make their own choice, nearly all students would always vote for their own anyway... it&#039;s pretty obvious and to be expected. That is why I would never do so myself. And this is why I was pretty upset when it happened.

Normally, I&#039;m very much against public votes in a contest like this as they tend to be pretty messy. They tend to turn into popularity contests, where, for example, a tracer with a ton of copied Naruto fanart in their portfolio would usually win against a far superior artist who mostly creates original, unpopular material. It&#039;s one of the most upsetting problems on DeviantArt, for instance.

This particular vote was actually amazingly clean and unbiased - up until that moment. It&#039;s just no fun anymore when it turns into a contest of whose school is bigger.

I was quite upset about such a turn of events, and if, in my frustration, I ended up saying something that seemed harsh to anyone - I apologize. My opinion on the school announcement, however, still stands...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brian Tillman</p>
<p>if there are any accusations &#8220;flying around&#8221;, they certainly aren&#8217;t mine. I haven&#8217;t accused anybody &#8211; merely made observations of some peculiar facts, and expressed my concern. My first thought was a glitch in the vote engine itself&#8230; Whoever said anything about accusations?</p>
<p>Apparently, Alfred thought the concerns were valid enough to warrant a change in the voting engine.</p>
<p>As for having friends vote&#8230; of course it&#8217;s okay! It&#8217;s natural &#8211; we can&#8217;t be expected to hide stuff from our friends, can we?</p>
<p>But letting the school know was, in my eyes, a few steps too far&#8230; you see, I&#8217;m a teacher myself &#8211; BA at teaching English (ESL). I only followed that career for one year, since I also have a Master&#8217;s in Architecture, but I do have a pretty good idea how things work. </p>
<p>If one of my students was participating in a contest, I definitely would NOT tell the school about it &#8211; I would leave it to them, if they wanted to do so. School pride is a very powerful factor. Students would certainly vote for their own, and in the end, the results would have no real meaning, the achievement would be hollow.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I would want my student&#8217;s contest to remain unbiased, so that the results would be of actual value to them &#8211; as a measure of real achievement. </p>
<p>As I said &#8211; of course inviting friends to vote is fine. I never said it wasn&#8217;t. But there&#8217;s quite a bit of a difference between that and having an entire school go vote. Regardless if you&#8217;d encourage them to make their own choice, nearly all students would always vote for their own anyway&#8230; it&#8217;s pretty obvious and to be expected. That is why I would never do so myself. And this is why I was pretty upset when it happened.</p>
<p>Normally, I&#8217;m very much against public votes in a contest like this as they tend to be pretty messy. They tend to turn into popularity contests, where, for example, a tracer with a ton of copied Naruto fanart in their portfolio would usually win against a far superior artist who mostly creates original, unpopular material. It&#8217;s one of the most upsetting problems on DeviantArt, for instance.</p>
<p>This particular vote was actually amazingly clean and unbiased &#8211; up until that moment. It&#8217;s just no fun anymore when it turns into a contest of whose school is bigger.</p>
<p>I was quite upset about such a turn of events, and if, in my frustration, I ended up saying something that seemed harsh to anyone &#8211; I apologize. My opinion on the school announcement, however, still stands&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LU</title>
		<link>http://www.alvinleeart.com/2009/10/alvinleeart-com-digital-color-challenge-finalists-vote/comment-page-9/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>LU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Que buena represenacion de Colombia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Que buena represenacion de Colombia</p>
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